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[laky]

Salve a tutti sono nuovo di questo forum mi rivolgo a voi x un aiuto.
ho appena aggiornato il sistema operativo a 10.4 poi con aggiornamento software 10.4.10 ora mi succede questo inconveniente tutte le cartelle sulla scrivania scompaiono x qualche secondo e poi riappaiono e non so per quale motivo.
Qualcuno mi sa spiegare il motivo.
Grazie per l'aiuto
http://www.tuttologia.com/macp2p/ima...ilies/madx.gif

[meigel]

tutte le cartelle sulla scrivania scompaiono x qualche secondo e poi riappaiono e non so per quale motivo.

Ciao laky, benvenuto

Se nel tuo Mac è installato Stuffit 11.0.2 leggi qui: http://www.tuttologia.com/macp2p/showthread.php?t=15214

[laky]

Controllato ma ho la versione 10 di stuffit che non dovrebbe dare problemi a quel che ho letto ma la cosa strana e che la sparizione dura due secondi e poi ricompaiono come se in quel lasso di tempo eseguisse qualcosa, come ora sono qui a scrivere risposta la barra dei menu da safari si porta su finder senza pero chiudere applicazione come se avessi cliccato io fuori applicazione e invece no qualcosa legato al finder ma cosa??
grazie

[meigel]

la sparizione dura due secondi e poi ricompaiono come se in quel lasso di tempo eseguisse qualcosa

Sembrerebbe un crash del finder... oltre a quella versione di Stuffit anche eventuali menu contestuali installati potrebbero causare problemi: http://www.tuttologia.com/macp2p/showthread.php?t=7631
Oppure potrebbe essere stato l'ultimo aggiornamento ad aver causato un problema; si potrebbe anche provare a reinstallare il 10.4.10 (versione combo).
Ma aspettiamo altri suggerimenti...

[flashcream]

cosa dicono i vari log?

questi riavvii del finder sono ben documentati e spessissimo causati proprio dai menu contestuali. eliminali TUTTI (i vari stuffit, toast ecc ecc) e riavvia.... non sono loro i colpevoli? rimettili al loro posto e riparliamone.

[laky]

Mac OS X Versione 10.4.10 (Build 8R21
2007-09-09 19:55:40 +0200
2007-09-09 19:55:44.723 HPEventHandler[595]: DebugAssert: Third Party Client: (NULL != m_lock && 0 == errno) Can't create semaphore lock[/Volumes/Development/HP/Mac-Sirani/mac-software/components/HPEventHandler/Sources/Core/HPTMNotificationManager.cpp:62]
2007-09-09 19:55:50.501 SystemUIServer[583] lang is:it
2007-09-09 19:55:53.629 MagicMenuHotKeyDaemon[608] Started
Sep 9 19:55:53 emac crashdump[607]: Finder crashed
Sep 9 19:55:56 emac crashdump[607]: crash report written to: /Users/emac/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Initialising aMule
Checking if there is an instance already running...
No other instances are running.
HTTP download thread started
Host: amule.sourceforge.net:80
URL: http://amule.sourceforge.net/lastversion
Response: 0 (Error: 3)
WARNING: Void response on stream creation
HTTP download thread ended
amule(618,0x682bc00) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0xf007f6fd; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
amule(618,0x682bc00) malloc: *** Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0xf007f6f9; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug
Loading temp files from /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp.

Loading PartFile 1 of 8
Loading PartFile 2 of 8
Loading PartFile 3 of 8
Loading PartFile 4 of 8
Loading PartFile 5 of 8
Loading PartFile 6 of 8
Loading PartFile 7 of 8: ERROR: Failed to load PartFile '008.part.met'

Loading PartFile 8 of 8: ERROR: Failed to load PartFile '012.part.met'

All PartFiles Loaded.
ListenSocket: Ok.

External connections disabled in config file
*** Server UDP socket (TCP+3) at 0.0.0.0:4665
*** TCP socket (TCP) listening on 0.0.0.0:4662
*** Client UDP socket (extended eMule) at 0.0.0.0:4672
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/001.part.met to shares
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/002.part.met to shares
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/003.part.met to shares
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/004.part.met to shares
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/005.part.met to shares
Adding file /Users/emac/Library/Application Support/aMule/Temp/007.part.met to shares
Sep 9 19:57:22 emac crashdump[622]: Finder crashed
Sep 9 19:57:24 emac crashdump[622]: crash report written to: /Users/emac/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Sep 9 19:58:51 emac crashdump[625]: Finder crashed
Sep 9 19:58:53 emac crashdump[625]: crash report written to: /Users/emac/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log
Sep 9 20:00:21 emac crashdump[627]: Finder crashed
Sep 9 20:00:23 emac crashdump[627]: crash report written to: /Users/emac/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/Finder.crash.log

ecco il report chi mi aiuta Grazie

[laky]

il report del finder.crash.log
Host Name: emac
Date/Time: 2007-09-09 19:58:49.922 +0200
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R21
Report Version: 4

Command: Finder
Path: /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
Parent: WindowServer [569]

Version: 10.4.7 (10.4.7)
Build Version: 1
Project Name: Finder_FE
Source Version: 5292900

PID: 623
Thread: 3

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x9002744c

Thread 0:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x01518348 0x150d000 + 45896
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x01e7dba8 0x1e5b000 + 142248
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x01e7d4ac 0x1e5b000 + 140460
3 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x01a05b20 0x19fd000 + 35616
4 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x01a051b4 0x19fd000 + 33204
5 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x01a4a348 0x19fd000 + 316232
6 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x01a4a138 0x19fd000 + 315704
7 com.apple.finder 0x00008960 0x1000 + 31072
8 com.apple.finder 0x00004f18 0x1000 + 16152
9 com.apple.finder 0x00069ff0 0x1000 + 430064
10 com.apple.finder 0x00069e98 0x1000 + 429720

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x0153c08c 0x150d000 + 192652
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x0266d7b0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x01538d08 0x150d000 + 179464

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x015393c8 0x150d000 + 181192
1 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x0266d9a0 MPWaitOnQueue + 224
2 com.apple.DesktopServices 0x909fa52c TNodeSyncTask::SyncTaskProc(void*) + 116
3 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x0266d7b0 PrivateMPEntryPoint + 76
4 libSystem.B.dylib 0x01538d08 0x150d000 + 179464

Thread 3 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0x9002744c 0 + -1878887348
1 <<00000000>> 0x01029384 0 + 16946052

Thread 3 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x000000009002744c srr1: 0x000000004000d030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x00000002 xer: 0x0000000000000000 lr: 0x0000000001028c64 ctr: 0x000000009002744c
r0: 0x0000000001028c64 r1: 0x0000000001017f40 r2: 0x0000000000000000 r3: 0x000000000102ae24
r4: 0x0000000001017f80 r5: 0x0000000000000000 r6: 0x000000000102b0f8 r7: 0x0000000000000000
r8: 0x0000000000000000 r9: 0x0000000000000000 r10: 0x0000000000000000 r11: 0x000000000102b054
r12: 0x000000009002744c r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000000000000 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x0000000000000000
r20: 0x0000000000000000 r21: 0x0000000000000000 r22: 0x0000000000000000 r23: 0x0000000000000000
r24: 0x0000000000000000 r25: 0x0000000000000000 r26: 0x000000000102b0f8 r27: 0x000000000102939c
r28: 0x0000000000000000 r29: 0x0000000000000000 r30: 0x0000000000000000 r31: 0x0000000001028c2c

Binary Images Description:
0x1000 - 0x31dfff com.apple.finder 10.4.7 /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/Contents/MacOS/Finder
0x712000 - 0x714fff com.apple.textencoding.unicode 2.0 /System/Library/TextEncodings/Unicode Encodings.bundle/Contents/MacOS/Unicode Encodings
0x1100000 - 0x141ffff com.apple.QuickTime 7.2.0 /System/Library/Frameworks/QuickTime.framework/Versions/A/QuickTime
0x1503000 - 0x1509fff com.apple.filesync 3.1 (99.9.0) /System/Library/PrivateFrameworks/FileSync.framework/Versions/A/FileSync
0x150d000 - 0x16c9fff libSystem.B.dylib /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x1721000 - 0x1735fff com.apple.ImageCapture 3.0 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/ImageCapture.framework/Versions/A/ImageCapture
0x174d000 - 0x175dfff com.apple.speech.recognition.framework 3.4 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SpeechRecognition.framework/Versions/A/SpeechRecognition
0x1769000 - 0x177efff com.apple.securityhi 2.0 (203) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/SecurityHI.framework/Versions/A/SecurityHI
0x1790000 - 0x1817fff com.apple.ink.framework 101.2 (69) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Ink.framework/Versions/A/Ink
0x182b000 - 0x182bfff com.apple.ApplicationServices 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/ApplicationServices.framework/Versions/A/ApplicationServices
0x182d000 - 0x1838fff com.apple.help 1.0.3 (32) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Help.framework/Versions/A/Help
0x1842000 - 0x186ffff com.apple.openscripting 1.2.5 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/OpenScripting.framework/Versions/A/OpenScripting
0x1889000 - 0x1898fff com.apple.print.framework.Print 5.2 (192.4) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/Print.framework/Versions/A/Print
0x18a4000 - 0x190afff com.apple.htmlrendering 1.1.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HTMLRendering.framework/Versions/A/HTMLRendering
0x193b000 - 0x198afff com.apple.NavigationServices 3.4.4 (3.4.3) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/NavigationServices.framework/Versions/A/NavigationServices
0x19b8000 - 0x19d5fff com.apple.audio.SoundManager 3.9 /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CarbonSound.framework/Versions/A/CarbonSound
0x19e7000 - 0x19f4fff com.apple.CommonPanels 1.2.2 (73) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/CommonPanels.framework/Versions/A/CommonPanels
0x19fd000 - 0x1d0bfff com.apple.HIToolbox 1.4.9 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/HIToolbox.framework/Versions/A/HIToolbox
0x1e5b000 - 0x1f34fff com.apple.CoreFoundation 6.4.7 (368.2 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x1f7d000 - 0x1f7dfff com.apple.CoreServices 10.4 (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices
0x1f7f000 - 0x2081fff libicucore.A.dylib /usr/lib/libicucore.A.dylib
0x20db000 - 0x20edfff libauto.dylib /usr/lib/libauto.dylib
0x20f4000 - 0x2178fff libobjc.A.dylib /usr/lib/libobjc.A.dylib
0x21a2000 - 0x21a7fff libmathCommon.A.dylib /usr/lib/system/libmathCommon.A.dylib
0x21a9000 - 0x221bfff IOKit /System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit
0x2231000 - 0x245cfff com.apple.Foundation 6.4.8 (567.29) /System/Library/Frameworks/Foundation.framework/Versions/C/Foundation
0x257a000 - 0x25f5fff com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 3.0.4 /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreAudio.framework/Versions/A/CoreAudio

[laky]

e di aiuto questa frase:
===== Il monitor si avvia a offset 6203283 entro un documento della lunghezza 6334355. ====
===== Usa Documento->Ricarica (Cmd-R) per mostrare di più. ====
.framework/Versions/A/DiskArbitration
0x9ffc5000 - 0x9ffedfff com.apple.SystemConfiguration 1.8.3 /System/Library/Frameworks/SystemConfiguration.framework/Versions/A/SystemConfiguration
GRAZIE

[flashcream]

quello che hai postato non dice molto, forse perchè manca un pezzo. (e mi riferisco al crash log del finder)

non è si capito se hai seguito i due suggerimenti: rimozione menu contestuali e installazione del combo.

in base a quello che vedo, aggiungo e consiglio la rimozione temporanea dei driver e del software delle tua stampante/scanner HP. (solitamente si fa con l'unistaller). in alternativa l'aggiornamento, perchè sappi che molto spesso, dopo gli aggiornamenti di sistema, questi software diventano incompatibili.

fatto questo, risentiamoci

[laky]

Grazie flaschcream della pazienza , si in effetti il report crasch del finder non e tutto ma era talmente lungo che non me lo faceva postare quindi ho tralasciato un pezzo
però ho visto ieri che dopo continui crash del finder non so x quale motivo smette e funziona tutto regolare pero al riavvio si ripete di nuovo.
ora riprovo ad reinstallare l'aggiornamento combo di mac os 10.4.10 o è meglio reinstallare la versione 10.4.6 prima dell 'aggiornamento al 10.4.10 abbia pazienza ma non è che sono uno smanettone quindi vado coi piedi di piombo per non combinare ulteriori casini.
Grazie