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stevejobs
31-01-08, 16:00
Salve a tutti, sono nuovo del forum cmq volevo chiedervi un consiglio,
ho un problema con safari. Io ho sempre utilizzato la versione 2 con molta soddisfazione, non avevo mai nessun problema. Da qualche mese ho istallato l'aggiornamento si osx 10.4.11 e si è aggiornato anche safari alla versione 3.0.4. Ogni volta che chiudo safari, e preciso OGNI VOLTA mi da un messaggio di errore. C'è qualcun'altro che ha avuto lo stesso problema e lo ha risolto? Vi ringrazio.

flashcream
31-01-08, 16:12
1) reiniziazzalo (menu safari/reinizializza). 2) rimuovi tutti gli eventuali plugin o input managers non più compatibili. (safari stand, igetter, speed download, inquisitor ecc ecc) 3) aggiorna i plugin internet. (flash player, flip4mac ecc ecc) 4) rimuovi i componenti divx da libreria e da libreria utente/internet plugins.

se poi alleghi il crash log forse è possibile capire qualcosa di più.

stevejobs
31-01-08, 16:19
Date/Time: 2008-01-31 15:16:00.004 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.11 (Build 8S2167)
Report Version: 4

Command: Safari
Path: /Applications/Safari.app/Contents/MacOS/Safari
Parent: WindowServer [57]

Version: 3.0.4 (523.12.2)
Build Version: 2
Project Name: WebBrowser
Source Version: 45231202

PID: 1254
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS (0x0001) at 0x49646481

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 libobjc.A.dylib 0x90a594c0 objc_msgSend + 16
1 com.apple.Safari 0x0004ad24 0x1000 + 302372
2 com.apple.Safari 0x0009ff1e 0x1000 + 651038
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x927f015b _nsnote_callback + 230
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x908563ca __CFXNotificationPost + 345
5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9084db69 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 600
6 com.apple.Foundation 0x927e8704 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 121
7 com.apple.Foundation 0x927ef6a9 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:] + 55
8 com.apple.AppKit 0x93296b52 -[NSWindow _close] + 103
9 com.apple.AppKit 0x93296ac4 -[NSWindow close] + 34
10 com.apple.Safari 0x0004ae2e 0x1000 + 302638
11 com.apple.Safari 0x0004ad9b 0x1000 + 302491
12 com.apple.Foundation 0x927f3fad -[NSArray makeObjectsPerformSelector:withObject:] + 324
13 com.apple.Foundation 0x92804c81 -[NSArray makeObjectsPerformSelector:] + 141
14 com.apple.AppKit 0x933fd7cf -[NSApplication _deallocHardCore:] + 233
15 com.apple.AppKit 0x933fd2d1 -[NSApplication terminate:] + 629
16 com.apple.AppKit 0x93363dbc -[NSApplication sendAction:to:from:] + 107
17 com.apple.Safari 0x0003176b 0x1000 + 198507
18 com.apple.AppKit 0x93411d0f -[NSMenu performActionForItemAtIndex:] + 455
19 com.apple.AppKit 0x93411a51 -[NSCarbonMenuImpl performActionWithHighlightingForItemAtIndex:] + 103
20 com.apple.AppKit 0x93342e36 _NSHandleCarbonMenuEvent + 477
21 com.apple.AppKit 0x9327681c _DPSNextEvent + 1491
22 com.apple.AppKit 0x93276076 -[NSApplication nextEventMatchingMask:untilDate:inMode:dequeue:] + 137
23 com.apple.Safari 0x00009208 0x1000 + 33288
24 com.apple.AppKit 0x9326fdfb -[NSApplication run] + 512
25 com.apple.AppKit 0x93263d4f NSApplicationMain + 573
26 com.apple.Safari 0x00090652 0x1000 + 587346
27 com.apple.Safari 0x000027a9 0x1000 + 6057

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009cd7 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d23b CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca56 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x92854bca +[NSURLCache _diskCacheSyncLoop:] + 206
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x927f82c0 forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 2:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90009cd7 mach_msg_trap + 7
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082d23b CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 2014
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9082ca56 CFRunLoopRunInMode + 61
3 com.apple.Foundation 0x9282d9ef +[NSURLConnection(NSURLConnectionInternal) _resourceLoadLoop:] + 259
4 com.apple.Foundation 0x927f82c0 forkThreadForFunction + 123
5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 3:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9001a1cc select + 12
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x90024227 _pthread_body + 84

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x49646461 ebx: 0x0048be50 ecx: 0x90ac0010 edx: 0x000f72c0
edi: 0x00000001 esi: 0x0048c380 ebp: 0xbfffed58 esp: 0xbfffed28
ss: 0x0000001f efl: 0x00010206 eip: 0x90a594c0 cs: 0x00000017
ds: 0x0000001f es: 0x0000001f fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x00000037

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stevejobs
31-01-08, 16:22
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stevejobs
31-01-08, 16:22
quando vado a fare reinizializza mi da lo stesso errore. Grazie

flashcream
31-01-08, 16:23
come sopra, rimuovi speed download (e come dice il produttore cioè con l'unistaller).

stevejobs
31-01-08, 16:28
Grazie mille. Problema risolto, solo che non ho piu un download manager perche l'ho eliminato. Un altro dowloadn manager che non mi da problemi con safari? Esistono?

Lester
31-01-08, 16:38
Grazie mille. Problema risolto, solo che non ho piu un download manager perche l'ho eliminato. Un altro dowloadn manager che non mi da problemi con safari? Esistono?

Come te ho aggiornato (ieri). Premesso che gli InputManager non si dovrebbero usare proprio perché causa di instabilità, ti posso dire che iGetter (http://www.igetter.net/iGetter.html) non mi sta dando problemi.

Certo, sono fresco di aggiornamento... starei a vedere prima di spendere $ 25... se mi dà problemi posto qui.