Photoshop si chiude subito dopo l'avvio (RISOLTO)

[Beps_an]

salve ragazzi, forse ho fatto una cappellata.
Mi spiego: avevo photoshop 7, a detta degli amici una versione incompleta, non so come mai ma pare mancassero delle funzioni, così l'ho eliminato.
Gli stessi amici mi hanno procurato per provarlo il cs2. l'ho installato (mi avvisa che dopo 30 giorni devo registrarlo)ma appena provo ad aprirlo inizia a caricare il software ma poi esce la classica finestrella con:L'applicazione Photo shop si è chiusa inaspettatamente, l'operazione non ha avuto ripercussioni.....
vi invio anche il resoconto
graziehttp://img81.imageshack.us/img81/4834/immagine2ie4.png

[avrobay]

La versione trial di Photoshop è liberamente scaricabile dal sito Adobe. Prendila da lì, è meglio.

[Beps_an]

salve ragazzi!
il problema non si è risolto.
Ho provto ad installare una versione trial scaricata dal sitro adobe.
Ma nel momento in cui provo ad aprirlo (dopo alcuni secondi che sembra lo stia caricando) il programma si blocca ed appare lka finestrella che ho descritto nel topic precedente.
Cosa può essere?
grazie

[flashcream]

crea un nuovo utente (che poi elimini tranquillamente) e prova ad avviare la trial installata. vediamo...

[Beps_an]

ho creato un nuovo utente senza privilegi di amministratore, anche se poi ho messo il segno di spunta sulla possibilità del nuovo utente ad usare anche i privilegi di amministratore (mi sembra un controsenso).
ho provato a selezionarlo pero tuttora se vado su mac hd vedo sempre il mio solito account come faccio ad attivarlo per poter avviare photoshop con il nuovo utente. grazie

[flashcream]

nelle opzioni login (pref. sistema/account) abilita il cambio rapido e poi nella barra dei menu in alto a dx scegli l'utente da avviare.

[Beps_an]

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/5724/immagine1pa8.png
grazie,
bello rivedere il mac da giovane :)
ho fatto tutto, adesso sono col nuovo utente
mi si ripresenta lo stesso problema :(

[flashcream]

a questo punto mi viene da pensare che componenti non rimossi della precedente versione possano essere il problema. naturalmente è una mera supposizione.

posta l'intero crash log, può essere si possa capire qualcosa di più.
(non l'immagine, il testo)

[Beps_an]

Date/Time: 2007-03-01 00:28:03.670 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127)
Report Version: 4

Command: Adobe Photoshop CS2
Path: /Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS2/Adobe Photoshop CS2.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop CS2
Parent: WindowServer [1498]

] è questo il crash log?

[flashcream]

l'inizio si.... seguono circa altre 1000 parole però :wink:

[Beps_an]

:oops: ma quanta pazienza avete!?
spero sia ok adesso:

Date/Time: 2007-03-01 19:36:47.624 +0100
OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127)
Report Version: 4

Command: Adobe Photoshop CS2
Path: /Applications/Adobe Photoshop CS2/Adobe Photoshop CS2.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe Photoshop CS2
Parent: WindowServer [61]

Version: 9.0 (9.0x196) (9.0)

PID: 227
Thread: 0

Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0 Crashed:
0 <<00000000>> 0xfffeff20 objc_msgSend_rtp + 32
1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907d32c0 __CFDictionaryDeallocate + 552
2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907bcf34 _CFRelease + 240
3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907f3540 __CFBundleDeallocate + 100
4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x907bcf34 _CFRelease + 240
5 org.twain.dsm 0x98079dc8 GetFileList(TW_IDENTITY*, DS_LIST*) + 432
6 org.twain.dsm 0x98079a88 DSM_Identity(TW_IDENTITY*, unsigned short, TW_IDENTITY*) + 68
7 org.twain.dsm 0x980797ec DSM_Entry + 252
8 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00db8dac XPEPLaunch::StartApp(unsigned short const*, unsigned short const*, unsigned short const*, void**) + 2458944
9 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00db8990 XPEPLaunch::StartApp(unsigned short const*, unsigned short const*, unsigned short const*, void**) + 2457892
10 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00b497a0 PercentageWindowVisible(TWindow*) + 3225288
11 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00af23ec PercentageWindowVisible(TWindow*) + 2867988
12 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00af1100 PercentageWindowVisible(TWindow*) + 2863144
13 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00003338 dyld_stub_binding_helper + 1096
14 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x000030d0 dyld_stub_binding_helper + 480
15 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00002e64 __code_start__ + 512
16 com.adobe.Photoshop 0x00002c94 __code_start__ + 48

Thread 1:
0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000ab48 mach_msg_trap + 8
1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9000aa9c mach_msg + 60
2 ...ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x90ba8c3c TS_exception_listener_thread + 112
3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x9002b508 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 0 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
srr0: 0x00000000fffeff20 srr1: 0x000000000000d030 vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
cr: 0x44000442 xer: 0x0000000020000007 lr: 0x00000000907d32c0 ctr: 0x00000000fffeff00
r0: 0x00000000907d32c0 r1: 0x00000000bfffe100 r2: 0x0000000000000000 r3: 0x0000000009f18930
r4: 0x0000000090aa8904 r5: 0x0000000000000072 r6: 0x00000000a0a3a8b4 r7: 0x000000009086f348
r8: 0x0000000000003227 r9: 0x0000000090aa890b r10: 0x0000000000000001 r11: 0x000000006f548904
r12: 0x0000000009cc4a0b r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: 0x0000000000000000 r15: 0x0000000000000000
r16: 0x0000000001432320 r17: 0x0000000000000000 r18: 0x0000000000000000 r19: 0x00000000014262f8
r20: 0x0000000000000000 r21: 0x00000000a80796f8 r22: 0x0000000000000001 r23: 0x0000000009f18850
r24: 0x0000000000000017 r25: 0x0000000000000010 r26: 0x00000000a07ba150 r27: 0x00000000a07bc458
r28: 0x0000000009f187c0 r29: 0x0000000009f18a70 r30: 0x00000000a07bc428 r31: 0x00000000907d30a8

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[B]

[flashcream]

prima di addentrarsi nella lettura, una domanda: le altre applicazioni ppc si avviano regolarmente? questo è importante da sapere.

[Beps_an]

scusa la domanda stupida ma cosa intendi per applicazioni ppc?
io ho provato con after effect e lo apre, graphic converter e lo apre, iphoto pure. per adesso tutte le applicazioni che uso non hanno prpblemi.
grazie e scusa il ritardo

[Beps_an]

non riesco a capire :???:
ho provato più volte a cancellare tutti i file legati a photoshop ed a reinstallare il programma ... ma niente. Dopo l'installazione mi dice che tutto è andato ok però appena provo ad aprirlo mi esce la solita finestra.
Non c'è un programma tipo desinstaller per i .dmg?
in modo che possa essere sicuro di didinstallarlo al 100%.
grazie ragazzi, sto impazzendo è la prima volta che mi accade

[flashcream]

scusa la domanda stupida ma cosa intendi per applicazioni ppc?

avevo la convinzione errata si trattasse di un mac intel.

sul sito adobe, c'è la procedura di rimozione manuale:

ps cs2:
http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=331404

la suite cs2: http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=331301

altro: http://www.tuttologia.com/tutorial/mac-disinstallare.html

rimuovi, ripara i permessi del tuo disco e reinstalla. aggiorna i programmi.

[Beps_an]

niente da fare, mi ridà lostesso problema! :(
Sul tutorial di adobe è specificato per una versione stand alone,
io ho una trial, può essere la causa?
inoltre alcune cartelle che mi chiedeva di eliminare da user/preference non c'erano.
quale può essere il problema?!

[flashcream]

questi due articoli di adobe potrebbero esserti utili, proponendoti più soluzioni.

cs2 (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?event=view&id=KC.331295&extid=331295&dialogID=6054529&iterationID=2&sessionID=1212e9932be273e5d423&stateID=0+0+6058323&mode=simple)

cs (http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?event=view&id=KC.331256&extid=331256&dialogID=6054529&iterationID=2&sessionID=1212e9932be273e5d423&stateID=0+0+6058323&mode=simple)

[Beps_an]

ragazzi o sono io imbranato o c'è qualche problema, è più probabile la prima ma proprio non so come fare.
ho provato a seguire la guida che mi avete inviato e ho cercato di seguirla passo passo' l'inglese non è il mio forte ma mi pare di aver capito e fatto tutto, ma niente da fare. Ho cancellato tutte le cartelle, comprese quelle in libreria e riparato i permessi ma ogni voilta che reinstallo e provo ad aprire photoshiop mi ridà lo stesso problema. :( è la prima volta che mi succede non sò più cosa fare!
vi chiedo aiuto

[Ferro]

Ciao a tutti, scusate l'informazione generica ma mi ha detto un mio collega che ha avuto lo stesso problema un suo amico, dovrebe essere un problema di conflitto di applicativi, per ora non posso essere più preciso, magari alle nostre pietre miliari viene in mente qualcosa. Ciao.

[Beps_an]

scusate ragazzi ma proprio non capisco quale sia il problema, ho provato e riprovato in più modi ho anche scaricato yasu per la correzzione dei permessi,
ma ahimè si ripropone lo stesso problema, vi in vio 2 screens. una degli elementi che elimino abitualmente ogni volta che provo a disinstallare photoshop e l'altro screens. con evidenziati gli elementi che la guida mi segnala come da eliminare ma che non trovo!
Vi ricordo che inizialmente avevo photoshop 7 e che il problema è sorto quando ho provato ad installare il 9 cs.

PS scusa ferro, innanzitutto grazie!
cosa intendi per conflitto di applicativi... che magari ho qualche applicazione che disturba photoschop magari qualche altro software di adobe che dovrei disinstallare.
grazie,
ragazzi scusate se rinnovo il topic ma sto impazzendo, non c'è un programma che mi permette di disinstallare con certezza photoshop in modo di essere sicuro che almeno il problema non si crea a causa di qualche file che non riesco ad eliminare

http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/6908/immagine2gz7.png

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/1839/textnf0.jpg

[Ferro]

PS scusa ferro, innanzitutto grazie!
cosa intendi per conflitto di applicativi... che magari ho qualche applicazione che disturba photoschop magari qualche altro software di adobe che dovrei disinstallare.
grazie,
ragazzi scusate se rinnovo il topic ma sto impazzendo, non c'è un programma che mi permette di disinstallare con certezza photoshop in modo di essere sicuro che almeno il problema non si crea a causa di qualche file che non riesco ad eliminare

Ciao Beps, mi spiace che non sei ancora riuscito a risolvere il problema, l'informazione che ti ho dato non riesco a approfondirla purtroppo, però vorrei sapere innanzitutto le caratteristiche del tuo computer, sys operativo installato, versione Photoshop da installare (mi sembra CS!?), cmq hai preso in considerazione un refresh del syst operativo con archivia installa o addirittura una bella riformattata di tutto, facendo il Back-Up dei dati che ti interessano? Capisco che è un pò laborioso ma ho paura che non ne esci più. Fammi sapere. Ciao

[Beps_an]

scusa l'ore tarda , ma ho un tale caos in sto periodo.
ho un portatile Powerbook G4 con 10.4.8
avevo il phptoshop 7 e mannaggia a me quando ho provato ad installare il cs2. Il primo cs2 che ho provato ad installare era un .dmg dato da un amico, poi dopo l'insuccesso ho provato una versione trial scaricata da adobe che continuo ad installare e disinstallare sperando in un miracolo :(

In riguardo alla formattazione vorrei lasciarla come ultima opzione,
a proposito che differenza c'è tra refresh e formattazzione?

Inoltre volevo chiederti se pensi potrebbe essere una corruzzione di file e come potrei muovermi in quel caso;
grazie per l'attenzione e per la pazienza,
bona notte
:)

[Ferro]

Ecconi qua, archivia e installa è una opzione di installazione di Mac Os X. serve a reinstallare senza perdere i dati (senza formattare il disco, quindi).

Reinstallare Mac OS X
In alcune circostanze può essere necessario reinstallare Mac OS X. Puoi reinstallare Mac OS X mantenendo inalterati i documenti e le impostazioni dell'utente.


Inserisci il CD d'installazione di Mac OS X e fai doppio clic sull'icona Installer Mac OS X.
Segui le istruzioni visualizzate. Seleziona il disco Mac OS X attuale (nella maggior parte dei casi sarà l'unico disponibile) quando ti viene richiesto di selezionare il disco di destinazione.
Fai clic su "Opzioni". Per registrare documenti, utenti e impostazioni di rete esistenti, seleziona "Archivia e Installa" quindi "Conserva utenti e impostazioni di rete". Per inizializzare tutto sul computer e reinstallare Mac OS X, seleziona "Inizializza e Installa". I dati inizializzati non possono essere recuperati.
Fai clic su "Continua".
Fai clic su "Personalizza" per selezionare i pacchetti di Mac OS X che desideri installare, oppure fai clic su Installa per eseguire un'installazione di base (raccomandata).

Invece la formattazione ti cancella tutto il disco e tutti i dati ovviamente.

Io proverei a fare archivia e installa, aggiornerei il system alla versione 10.4.9 scaricabile da internet (sul sito apple) gratuita ovviamente, ed infine reinstallerei la Cs1 che con il tuo processore va benissimo. Ciao fammi sapere come và.

[Ferro]

Ciao Beps, hai risolto?

[avrobay]

Io proverei a fare archivia e installa, aggiornerei il system alla versione 10.4.9 scaricabile da internet (sul sito apple) gratuita ovviamente, ed infine reinstallerei la Cs1 che con il tuo processore va benissimo. Ciao fammi sapere come và.

Segnalo anche il tutorial su Mac Basic completo di screenshot :)

http://www.tuttologia.com/basic/mac-archivia-installa.html

[Beps_an]

grazie ragazzi, scusate se non vi ho risposto ma non ho ancora provato.

Ma facendo il refresh non perdo ad esempio i plug in delle applicazioni o gli script (ad esempio io ne ho uno che mi fa vedere a schermo intero in quick time)?
scusa avro ma non ho ancora letto il tutorial, magari ciò che vi chiedo lo trovo li.
grazie ragazzi appena risolto vi faccio sapere

[Ferro]

grazie ragazzi, scusate se non vi ho risposto ma non ho ancora provato.

Ma facendo il refresh non perdo ad esempio i plug in delle applicazioni o gli script (ad esempio io ne ho uno che mi fa vedere a schermo intero in quick time)?
scusa avro ma non ho ancora letto il tutorial, magari ciò che vi chiedo lo trovo li.
grazie ragazzi appena risolto vi faccio sapere

Penso di no, ma comunque fatti un dvd o un Back-Up con gli script e i plug-in di Photoshop per sicurezza da qualche parte.
:wink:

[Beps_an]

ciao ragazzi il primo passo l'ho fatto! pare sia andato tutto bene a parte qualche piccolo intoppo e la segnalazione di un errore alla fine dell'aggiornamento che però non si è manifestato. Vi elenco il tutto:
Ho seguito il tutorial segnalato da avro ; inizialmente non mi faceva partire dal dvd riavviando premendo il tasto C e nemmeno cliccando sull'icona e riavviando. Dopo il riavvia non mi appariva la procedura di installazione direttamente dal dvd, quindi ho cliccato sull'icona e da li ho iniziato la procedura.
Successivamente mi ha chiesto il dvd2 che ho inserito e qui il primo intoppo, alla fine del processo mi appare una finestra che mi avvisa di un errore e mi consiglia di riprovare l'installazione! e li panico e terrore di ritrovarmi senza ne il vecchio e ne il nuovo! in mezzo alla .... in poche parole.
Al secondo tentativo ok.
Mi ricollego ad internet e avvio l'aggiornamento, che è andato appostyo a parte una finestra finale che mi dice: Si è verificato un errore di network error nsurleerrordomain -1005 (-1005) assicurati di poterti collegare ad internet.
Ebbene ho provato è son riuscito a collegarmi... come mai la finestra di errore allora?

PS stasera provo ad reinstallare photoshop ...speriamo bene, vi farò sapere.
Grazie ferro, Grazie avro

[Beps_an]

:P ragazzi risolto!
Più vado avanti in questo forum più mi rendo conto che siete indispensabili per chi come me si confronta con il mondo mac da poco tempo.
Grazie ferro se non era per te probabilmente rimanevo senza photoshop per molto tempo ancora,
grazie anche a flash che mi ha seguito nella parte iniziale di questa disavventura e un grazie ad avro onnipresente quando ho bisogno d'aiuto.


Per dovere di cronaca aggiungo che con il refresh ho perso le applicazioni ilearnenglish e vlc che ovviamente ho già ripristinato,
ho perso anche lo script"show movie in full screen" di quick time, a dire il vero tutta la cartella dei codec quick time era quasi vuota, avevo comunque un back up ed ho ripristinato tutto.
Forse mi manca qualcos'altro e me ne renderò conto piu avanti.
grazie ragazzi

[Ferro]

Grazie ferro se non era per te probabilmente rimanevo senza photoshop per molto tempo ancora,
grazie anche a flash che mi ha seguito nella parte iniziale di questa disavventura e un grazie ad avro onnipresente quando ho bisogno d'aiuto.


Prego fratello!!! :D

[Beps_an]

ragazzi panico,.,. ci risiamo è riapparso il problema della chiusura inaspettata, o meglio dell'impossibilità ad aprire photoshop.

Dopo l'archivia installa ero riuscito ad installare una versione trial di P.cs2,
giorni fa è scaduta e dopo aver trovato una nuova versione trial del cs2 in un cd allegato ad una rivista (icreate) ho provato ad installarlo, ovviamente dopo aver eliminato tutti i file riconducibili al software... anche con l'aiuto di spotlight .... ma all'avvio ecco riproporsi lo stesso problema.
Vi prego aiutatemi se siete in grado, non riesco proprio a capire come mai mi succede quesdta cosa con photoshop.
allego anche il resoconto.
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Model: PowerBook5,8, BootROM 4.9.6f0, 1 processors, PowerPC G4 (1.5), 1.67 GHz, 1 GB
Graphics: ATI Mobility Radeon 9700, ATY,RV360M11, AGP, 128 MB
Memory Module: SODIMM0/J20STANDARD, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200S-444
Memory Module: SODIMM1/J23REVERSED, 512 MB, DDR2 SDRAM, PC2-4200U-444
AirPort: AirPort Extreme, 405.1 (3.90.34.0.p18)
Modem: Jump, V.92, Version 1.0
Bluetooth: Version 1.7.14f14, 2 service, 1 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
PCI Card: pci106b,4318, sppci_othernetwork, SLOT-A
PCI Card: TXN,PCIXXXX-00, cardbus, PC Card
PCI Card: usb, usb, USB20
PCI Card: usb, usb, USB20
PCI Card: usb, ehci, USB20
Parallel ATA Device: ST9808211A, 74.53 GB
Parallel ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R UJ-846
USB Device: Bluetooth HCI, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, Apple Computer, Up to 12 Mb/sec, 500 mA

[Peterpan]

Ho un sospetto.

Chiaramente non e' che adobe ti consenta di installare versioni trial l'una appresso all'altra.

Il mio sospetto e' che il crash sia dovuto al fatto che tu stai facendo qualcosa di non lecito. Magari il software reagisce in quel modo proprio perche', come dici tu hai fatto una ripulitura di "tutti i file riconducibili al software".

[Melquiades]

Ho un sospetto.

Chiaramente non e' che adobe ti consenta di installare versioni trial l'una appresso all'altra.

Il mio sospetto e' che il crash sia dovuto al fatto che tu stai facendo qualcosa di non lecito. Magari il software reagisce in quel modo proprio perche', come dici tu hai fatto una ripulitura di "tutti i file riconducibili al software".


Di quello che tu dici Peter ho una certezza che rasenta il 100%

IMHO continua a crasharti all'infinito e non credo ti possiamo essere molto d'aiuto in casi come questi :roll:

[maina]

Ho un sospetto.

Chiaramente non e' che adobe ti consenta di installare versioni trial l'una appresso all'altra.
.

sospetto condiviso!

[Beps_an]

sic! be immaginavo di non poter continuare ad installare versioni trial, però dato che la seconda proveniva da un cd di una rivista (quindi non scaricato a mio nome) pensavo erroneamente che si potesse fare. Poi dato che me lo faceva installare avvisandomi che l'installazione era avvenuta in modo corretto, pensavo che il crack fosse causato da un conflitto di applicazioni o qualcosa del genere.
cavolo non li ho i soldi per acquistare photoshop!:(
ragazzi grazie lo stesso almeno adesso so qual'è il problema

[Peterpan]

sic! be immaginavo di non poter continuare ad installare versioni trial, però dato che la seconda proveniva da un cd di una rivista (quindi non scaricato a mio nome) pensavo erroneamente che si potesse fare. Poi dato che me lo faceva installare avvisandomi che l'installazione era avvenuta in modo corretto, pensavo che il crack fosse causato da un conflitto di applicazioni o qualcosa del genere.
cavolo non li ho i soldi per acquistare photoshop!:(
ragazzi grazie lo stesso almeno adesso so qual'è il problema

The Gimp e' un ottimo software di fotoritocco, http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

[avrobay]

The Gimp e' un ottimo software di fotoritocco, http://www.gimp.org/macintosh/

E vorrei aggiungere GraphicConverter :)
http://www.tuttologia.com/macp2p/showthread.php?t=19213